When Spiritual Experience meets Demons and Divine Intervention (Ft. Ryan Bethea)
A spiritual experience is closer to many than they might think — especially for the faithful. As the spiritual realm gains traction in both pop culture and faith circles, believers are increasingly asking: Is this stuff real, and how do I discern truth from fiction? While some dismiss demons, exorcism, deliverance, and the supernatural as outdated myths, countless Christians continue to share real stories of both oppression and miraculous freedom. In a world where Ouija boards are marketed as toys and TikTok teems with spiritual influencers, navigating truth from deception isn’t just cultural—it’s deeply personal, often painful, and undeniably hopeful.
In this episode of Revelations Podcast, host Reagan Kramer sits down with Ryan Bethea, producer and host of The Exorcist Files, as well as co-host of the new podcast Heaven Meets Earth. Ryan’s exploration into Catholic exorcisms and modern-day miracles offers an unparalleled look into how spiritual warfare manifests today. As a Protestant gaining insights from Catholic traditions, and through deeply researched narrative storytelling, Ryan brings humility, humor, and serious theological weight to one of the most misunderstood and scarcely discussed topics in Christianity.
Be equipped with a fresh, Spirit-led perspective and practical tools to understand the realities of spiritual warfare, what deliverance looks like in real life, and how God still works through miracles today. This episode is for curious skeptics, discerning believers, and anyone hungering for more of God’s power and presence.
Here are three reasons why you should listen to this episode:
Explore real-life encounters with demonic forces and the process of exorcism in both Catholic and Protestant contexts through the lens of spiritual warfare.
Gain insight into how miraculous healing and supernatural intervention point to God’s faithfulness through a spiritual experience in the modern day.
Reflect on how to discern spiritual attack from psychological or circumstantial hardship—and find wisdom for your own spiritual battles.
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Episode Highlights
[00:01] Ryan's Journey of Spiritual Experience
Ryan Bethea is the creator, host, and producer of "The Exorcist Files" and co-host of "Heaven Meets Earth" with Abigail Robertson.
Ryan shares his experience of studying miracles and answered prayers, which led him to discover the Catholic Church's process of canonizing saints.
He feels he was redirected to talk about spiritual warfare, which eventually led to his current professional success.
Ryan believes that God can do anything, anytime, anywhere. A spiritual experience can happen to anyone who believes.
[05:50] Reagan's Personal Story and Connection to "The Exorcist"
Reagan shares her personal story, revealing that her name is from the movie "The Exorcist."
Reagan was scared when she watched the movie, but eventually became an evangelist.
God uses various means to bring people to Him. The spiritual experience leading you to God may be through a movie or a personal experience.
Ryan mentions the book "The Exorcist Files," which captures the gaslighting experienced by exorcists, and how it mirrors the themes in their podcast.
[08:52] Exorcisms and Spiritual Warfare
Ryan shares his witness to a colleague's overt manifestation in a ministry setting, describing it as a strange and rare experience.
There is, however, plausible deniability in miracles. God leaves room for faith.
Recognizing the attacks of the Enemy can be challenging, which amplifies the importance of discernment in spiritual warfare.
[15:25] Ryan: “Paul's constantly reminding us, Hey, you have an Adversary. Don't be scared, but be alert.”
[19:10] The Role of Prayer and Spiritual Discernment
Ryan’s co-host Abby takes a spirit-led approach to life and decision-making, including praying about everyday choices.
Abby's posture of prayer and discernment inspired him to submit more of his decisions to God.
"Lead with Prayer" by Ryan Skoog highlights the importance of prayer in making decisions.
As Christians, we must trust God's timing and be open to His guidance in all aspects of life.
[21:1] Ryan: “You hear all these stories; miracles happen. They're rare by definition. They're miracles. These are not common experiences, and they take all shapes and sizes.”
[24:37] Heaven Meets Earth: A Spiritual Experience
“Heaven Meets Earth” had diverse guests from different faiths, which gave them a broad perspective. However, the focus was on miracles and spiritual experiences.
"Heaven Meets Earth" podcast had a powerful and positive impact, and even helped heal or encourage its listeners through difficult times.
It would help people to normalize spiritual experiences and provide a platform for people to share their stories.
Miracles happen all the time — even today in our lives. We just have to be open to God’s work.
[31:08] Mary and Spiritual Apparitions
Ryan shares a story about a friend who received a message from Mary during a difficult time, which brought her comfort and healing.
Marian apparitions have great historical significance, such as Lady of Guadalupe and Fatima. Their impact on the faith of people worldwide is undeniable.
[37:12] Spiritual Experience in the Modern Era
Trust God's timing and be open to His guidance in all aspects of life.
Spiritual experiences can come from anywhere — even a podcast.
[44:54] Ryan: “Keep your eyes open, see what God's up to. He's always sneakily doing something.”
We must continue to share our faith and experiences to those open to hearing.
About Ryan Bethea
Ryan Bethea is a dynamic storyteller, media producer, and spiritual investigator whose work bridges the worlds of faith, mystery, and modern-day miracles. As the creator and host of The Exorcist Files and co-host of Heaven Meets Earth with Abigail Robertson, Ryan brings biblical insight and narrative excellence to the frontlines of spiritual warfare and deliverance. His journey from researching miracles during a season of personal struggle to becoming a trusted voice in Catholic exorcism circles, reflects a deep hunger to uncover the truth about God’s power in our present age.
With a rare blend of humor, humility, and theological depth, Ryan’s podcasts reach across denominational lines to illuminate how God is still healing, delivering, and transforming lives today. His storytelling not only captivates audiences but equips them to discern deception, embrace the supernatural, and walk boldly in their spiritual authority. Whether documenting demonic encounters or miraculous breakthroughs, Ryan lives to make the invisible Kingdom visible, one testimony at a time.
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